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LC-32GA5E (serv.man18)
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TV / LCD
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41
  LC-26GA5E
  LC-32GA5E
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
I
H
G
F
E
D
C
B
A
Operation Unit Diagram 
 
  
  (CONTROL)
P4050
N0480GE
1
RESET
2
KEY1
3
KEY2
4
GND
R4050
470
CY
*R4051
470
CY
R4053
680
CY
D4050
EX1271CE
RHEX
D4051
EX1271CE
RHEX
TL4050
TL4051
TL4052
TL4053
TL4054
TL4055
TL4056
TL4058
TL4059
TL4060
TL4061
SW4051
K0095CE
IN SELECT
1
2
3
4
SW4052
K0095CE
VOL +
1
2
3
4
SW4053
K0095CE
CH +
1
2
3
4
SW4054
K0095CE
VOL -
1
2
3
4
SW4055
K0095CE
CH -
1
2
3
4
S4057
P0560CE
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
*JF4001
0
CY
LC26GA5EE, LC32GA5EE, LC37GA5EE
DUNTKC864 (WE03,08,14) (WE*C*H*N)
CONTROL
SHARP
  XC864WJN1
NAME
ELECTRONICA ESPANA S.A.
VERIFIED
DATE
21-OCT-2004
CONTROL SHT001
APPROVED
CODE
DRAW
42
  LC-26GA5E
  LC-32GA5E
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
I
H
G
F
E
D
C
B
A
RC / Led Unit  Diagram  
  (RC_LED)
+3.3STBY
+3.3STBY
+3.3STBY
D4005
EX1271CE
LM393A
1
2
3
4
-VS
5678
+VS
P4001
N0780GE
1
+3.3STBY
2
OPC
3
IR
4
OSDCK
5
OSDD
6
SWITCH
7
GND
TPS850
1
2
3
4
C4001
4.7u
R4006
100
C4002
0.1u
C4004
0.1u
10u
16V
C4003
APF
*R4008
1K
R4009
100K
R4010
4.7K
R4011
100
R4012
47K
C4005
0.22u
Q4001
DTA143EK
VSD
Q4002
DTA143EK
VSD
Q4003
DTA143EK
VSD
Q4004
DTA143EK
VSD
R4001
120
R4002
120
R4003
120
R4007
120
D4002
PX0419CE
ON TIMER
D4001
PX0421CE
TV POW
1
2
3
4
TL4001
TL4002
TL4003
TL4004
TL4005
TL4006
TL4007
TL4008
TL4009
TL4010
TL4011
TL4012
TL4013
TL4014
TL4015
TL4016
TL4017
RMC4001
UA034WJQZ
1
2
3
D4003
PX0198TA
LUG4001
1
R4014
470
R4015
1K
R4016
1K
CY
R4017
47K
R4018
1K
IXB304WJ
1
STR
2
D
3
CP
4
00
5
01
6
02
7
03
8
VSS
9
0s
10
0s
11
07
12
06
13
05
14
04
15
E0
16
VDD
IC4003
IC4002
LC26GA5EE, LC32GA5EE, LC37GA5EE
DUNTKC865 (WE03,08,14) (WE*C*H*N)
IC4001
RC_LED
SHARP
  XC865WJN1
NAME
ELECTRONICA ESPANA S.A.
VERIFIED
DATE
28-OCT-2004
RC_LED  SHT001
APPROVED
CODE
DRAW
43
  LC-26GA5E
  LC-32GA5E
RS_DE
RS_VS
RS_CLK
RF_CLK
RF_VS
RF_DE
RB7
RB6
RB4
RB5
RB2
RB1
RB0
RB3
RG6
RG5
RG4
RG7
RR0
RR3
RG2
RR2
RR1
RG1
RG0
RR6
RR4
RR7
RG3
RR5
ROM1_WP
MP_CLK
MP_DA
ROM1_CS
ROM1_DI
IC1_CONF
IC1_DONE
ROM1_CLK
ROM1_DA
RX_RTB1-
RX_RTB1+
RX_RTC1-
RX_RTC1+
RX_RTCLK1-
RX_RTCLK1+
RX_RTD1-
RX_RTD1+
RX_RTA2-
RX_RTA2+
RX_RTB2-
RX_RTB2+
RX_RTC2-
RX_RTC2+
RX_RTCLK2-
RX_RTCLK2+
RX_RTD2-
RX_RTD2+
RX_RTA1-
RX_RTA1+
ROM1_DI
RF_HS
DDC_RST
IC1_CS
ROM1_CLK
D3.3V_GAMMA
D3.3V_GAMMA
D3.3V_GAMMA
RS_HS
B_X4601
ROM1_DA
ROM1_CS
DDC_RST
SC4601
N0491FJ
LV
TO TMDS RX
1
GND
2
GND
3
RTD2+
4
RTD2-
5
GND
6
RTCLK2+
7
RTCLK2-
8
GND
9
RTC2+
10
RTC2-
11
GND
12
RTB2+
13
RTB2-
14
GND
15
RTA2+
16
RTA2-
17
GND
18
RTD1+
19
RTD1-
20
GND
21
RTCLK1+
22
RTCLK1-
23
GND
24
RTC1+
25
RTC1-
26
GND
27
RTB1+
28
RTB1-
29
GND
30
RTA1+
31
RTA1-
32
GND
33
GND
D3.3V_GAMMA
RF_HS
RS_CLK
RB4
RB6
RR3
RR6
RG6
RR0
RB5
RB7
RB3
RG2
RB2
RG4
RR2
RG3
RR4
RS_HS
RR1
RF_CLK
RR7
RS_VS
RF_VS
RF_DE
RB0
RR5
RG1
RB1
RG0
RS_DE
RG5
R4622
68
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4623
68
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4624
68
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4625
68
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4626
68
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4627
68
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4619
68
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4617
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4615
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4614
10
2
1
3
4
X4601
UAA048WJ
83.565MHz
1
2
3
4
R4616
68
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
C4609
0.01u
C4612
0.01u
C4615
0.01u
C4611
0.01u
C4613
0.01u
C4618
0.01u
C4604
0.01u
C4605
0.01u
C4606
0.01u
C4607
0.01u
C4608
0.01u
C4617
0.01u
FB4601
0210TA
FB4604
0210TA
FB4603
0210TA
R4620
27
C4620
47u
6.3V
ASY
C4619
0.1u Z
25V
C4614
1000P
C4622
47u
6.3V
ASY
C4621
0.1u Z
25V
C4616
1000P
C4601
47u
6.3V
ASY
C4602
0.1u Z
25V
C4603
1000P
C4623
0.1u
Z
25V
R4621
27
IC1_CONF
IC1_DONE
MP_CLK
MP_DA
IC1_CS
DDC_RST
ROM1_WP
R4618
47K
R4601
100 F
R4602
100 F
R4603
100 F
R4604
100 F
R4605
100 F
R4606
100 F
R4607
100 F
R4608
100 F
R4609
100 F
R4610
100 F
R4613
47K
FB4602
A005WJ
C4610
0.1u
25V
Z
R4611
10K
RG7
*C4624
1000P
50V
K
T7WH123U
SYNC DET
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
*C4625
0.1u
25V
Z
*R4628
22K
R4629
4.7K
R4630
4.7K
R4631
4.7K
R4632
10K
*R4637
100
R4639
10K
R4640
0
C4626
0.01u
FB4605
0210TA
SYNC_DET
R4642
0
IXB001WJ
GAMMA
1
DGND
2
LVDSDVDD
3
LVDSDGND
4
LVDSGND
5
RXAINON
6
RXAINOP
7
RXAIN1N
8
RXAIN1P
9
LVDSVDD
10
RXAIN2N
11
RXAIN2P
12
RXACLKN
13
RXACLKP
14
RXAIN3N
15
RXAIN3P
16
LVDSGND
17
LVDSPVDD
18
LVDSPGND
19
LVDSDVDD
20
LVDSDGND
21
LVDSGND
22
RXBIN0N
23
RXBIN0P
24
RXBIN1N
25
RXBIN1P
26
LVDSVDD
27
RXBIN2N
28
RXBIN2P
29
RXBCLKN
30
RXBCLKP
31
RXBIN3N
32
RXBIN3P
33
LVDSGND
34
LVDSPVDD
35
LVDSPGND
36
DGND
37
DVCC
38
DVCC
39
TEST0
40
PCLK
41
DGND
42
TEST1
43
TST0
44
TST1
45
TST2
46
TST3
47
TST4
48
TST5
49
TST6
50
DVCC
51
DGND
52
ID
53
RESETB
54
MP_CS
55
MP_DA
56
MP_CLK
57
ROM_DI
58
ROM_CS
59
ROM_DA
60
ROM_CLK
61
C_DONE
62
CONFIC
63
PD
64
TST7
65
FREE_DE
66
FREE_VS
67
FREE_HS
68
DGND
69
F_CLKO
70
TST8
71
DVCC
72
DVCC
73
DGND
74
DGND
75
SCANO
76
SCANI
77
TST9
78
R0
79
R1
80
R2
81
R3
82
R4
83
R5
84
R6
85
R7
86
G0
87
G1
88
G2
89
G3
90
DGND
91
DVCC
92
G4
93
G5
94
G6
95
G7
96
B0
97
B1
98
B2
99
B3
100
B4
101
B5
102
B6
103
B7
104
TST10
105
TST11
106
TST12
107
DGND
108
DGND
109
DVCC
110
DVCC
111
TST13
112
OCK
113
DGND
114
HS
115
VS
116
DE
117
TST14
118
TST15
119
TST16
120
TST17
121
TST18
122
TST19
123
TST20
124
TST21
125
TST22
126
TST23
127
TST24
128
TST25
129
DGND
130
DVCC
131
TST26
132
TST27
133
TST28
134
TST29
135
TST30
136
TST31
137
TST32
138
TST33
139
TST34
140
TST35
141
TST36
142
DGND
143
DVCC
144
DVCC
IXB272WJ
ROM
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
GA5E-022
R4648
0
TO POWER
(PWBXC919WJ)
TO QS
TO MICOM
S3 (2004.11.15)
LC-26GA5E
LCD CONT 1 (GAMMA)
*PWB1002
DUNTKC919DE01
*IC4603
IC4601
IC4602
LCD_CONT UNIT 1/7
3.2
3.3
3.3
0
3.3
2.2
1.3
3.3
0
3.3
0
0
1.5
1.1
1.5
1.1
3.3
1.3
1.3
1.3
1.3
1.5
1.1
0
3.3
0
3.3
0
0
1.5
1.1
1.5
1.1
3.3
1.3
1.3
1.3
1.3
1.5
1.1
0
3.3
0
0
3.3
3.3
0
1.5
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
3.3
3.3
3.3
3.3
3.3
3.3
3.3
3.3
0
0
3.3
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
1.2
0
3.3
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
3.3
0
1.2
0
3.2
3.2
2.5
0.2
0.1
0.1
0.1
0.1
0.1
0.1
0.1
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
3.3
3.3
3.3
0.4
0
3.3
0
3.3
3.3
LC-26GA5E   LCD Control Unit Diagram  1/7  
  (GAMMA)
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
I
H
G
F
E
D
C
B
A
44
  LC-26GA5E
  LC-32GA5E
RDO7
RG3
ROM2_DO
RDI6
RDO14
RDO8
RR2
RDO3
RDO9
RTB1+
RR1
RDI9
RDO12
RDI5
RDO10
RDO6
RDO23
RDI15
RDI4
RR7
RDO11
RDI5
RDO22
RSWCK
RTCLK1+
RDI3
ROM2_CLK
RDI20
RR3
RDO12
RRSTW
RDI23
RR0
RTB1-
RDO13
RDO7
RDI3
RDO14
RDI22
RR4
RB7
RDI9
RDO15
RDI7
RDI12
RDI8
RDI8
RB6
RDO16
RS_DE
RDO17
RSWCK
RDI11
RDI0
RTA1-
RDO1
RDO16
RDO17
RDO0
RS_VS
RDI21
RG2
RDI1
RDO0
RTD1+
RF_VS
RDO18
ROM2_CS
RDI10
RDI13
RF_DE
RDO19
RDI14
RDI7
RDO15
RF_HS
RDI6
RTD1-
RDO20
RWAD
RDO13
RDO8
RDI0
RTCLK1-
RDI18
RG5
RDO1
RTA1+
RDI17
RDI17
RIE
RDI2
RDO2
RG4
RDO18
RDI16
RTC1-
RDI11
RDO3
RTC1+
RDO4
RWE
RDO4
RS_HS
RDI10
RDO9
RDO5
RDI16
RS_CLK
RDO6
RB2
RDO11
RDI22
MP_DA
RR6
RB5
RDI21
RB1
RDI2
RDI4
MP_CLK
RG1
RDI18
RDI1
RB4
RWE
RG0
RR5
RB0
RWAD
RF_CLK
RIE
RDO21
RB3
RDI20
RG7
RDO5
RDO21
RDO20
ROM2_DI
RG6
RDO19
RDO2
RDO22
RDI19
RRSTW
RDO23
RDI19
RDI12
RDI13
RDI14
RDI15
IC2_CS
IC2_CONF
RDI23
RDO10
ROM2_CS
ROM2_DI
ROM2_CLK
DDC_RST
ROM2_DO
D3.3V_QS
D3.3V_QS
MP_DA
RR2
C4947
0.1u
25V
Z
C4941
0.1u
25V
Z
C4935
0.1u
25V
Z
RB7
RR6
RS_CLK
C4938
1000P
CYB
C4914
0.01u
50V
C4905
0.1u
25V
Z
RTB1-
C4931
47u
6.3V
ASY
C4932
0.1u
25V
Z
C4927
0.1u Z
RTC1-
C4921
1000P
RS_VS
C4915
330P
FB4902
0210TA
RF_HS
RG0
DDC_RST
C4925
0.1u Z
RG5
RG3
C4923
0.1u Z
C4912
330P
C4928
0.1u
25V
Z
RB0
RB6
C4936
100u
6.3V
ASY
RB1
C4916
1000P
C4910
0.01u
RTD1-
C4922
0.1u
25V
Z
C4949
0.01u
50V
RR7
RG2
C4943
0.1u
25V
Z
C4903
1000P
RF_CLK
RR0
C4933
0.1u
25V
Z
R4914
47
2
1
3
4
FB4903
0210TA
C4901
47u
6.3V
ASY
*R4913
10
C4940
0.1u
25V
Z
C4946
0.1u
25V
Z
RS_HS
IC2_CONF
RTA1-
RB4
RTD1+
FB4904
0210TA
C4948
0.1u
25V
Z
C4942
0.1u
25V
Z
D3.3V_QS
RG4
C4930
0.1u Z
25V
RG7
RR4
R4905
10
RR1
RTC1+
RB2
C4926
0.1u Z
RB5
RR3
C4937
0.1u Z
25V
C4902
0.1u Z
25V
MP_CLK
C4944
0.01u
50V
C4924
0.1u Z
C4920
0.1u
25V
Z
RTCLK1-
RS_DE
C4909
0.1u
25V
Z
C4917
0.1u Z
25V
RTCLK1+
RTA1+
FB4901
0210TA
R4903
10
C4929
0.1u
25V
Z
RF_VS
1
GND
2
VDD
3
4
GND
5
GND
6
GND
7
GND
8
GND
9
NC
10
LTPVDD
11
LTPGND
12
LTAGND
13
TD2+
14
TD2-
15
TCLK2+
16
TCLK2-
17
TC2+
18
TC2-
19
LTAVDD
20
TB2+
21
TB2-
22
TA2+
23
TA2-
24
LTAGND
25
TD1+
26
TD1-
27
TCLK1+
28
TCLK1-
29
TC1+
30
TC1-
31
LTAVDD
32
TB1+
33
TB1-
34
TA1+
35
TA1-
36
LTAGND
37
RESETB
38
MP_CS
39
MP_DA
40
MP_CLK
41
C_RESET
42
ROM_DI
43
VDD
44
GND
45
GND
46
VDD
47
ROM_CS
48
ROM_DO
49
ROM_CLK
50
VDD
51
WAD
52
RSTW
53
IE
54
WE
55
GND
56
SWCK
57
VDD
58
DO0
59
DO1
60
DO2
61
DO3
62
GND
63
DO4
64
DO5
65
DO6
66
DO7
67
VDD
68
DO8
69
DO9
70
DO10
71
DO11
72
GND
73
DO12
74
DO13
75
DO14
76
DO15
77
VDD
78
DO16
79
DO17
80
DO18
81
DO19
82
GND
83
DO20
84
DO21
85
DO22
86
DO23
87
VDD
88
GND
89
GND
90
VDD
91
IDE
92
IVS
93
HIS
94
VDD
95
ICLK
96
GND
97
IB7
98
IB6
99
IB5
100
IB4
101
IB3
102
IB2
103
IB1
104
IB0
105
VDD
106
IG7
107
IG6
108
IG5
109
IG4
110
IG3
111
IG2
112
IG1
113
IG0
114
GND
115
IR7
116
IR6
117
IR5
118
IR4
119
IR3
120
IR2
121
IR1
122
IR0
123
VDD
124
FREE_CK
125
GND
126
FREE_HS
127
FREE_VS
128
FREE_DE
129
GND
130
GND
131
VDD
132
GND
133
GND
134
VDD
135
RAD
136
RSTR
137
OE
138
RE
139
VDD
140
SRCK
141
GND
142
DI23
143
DI22
144
DI21
145
DI20
146
GND
147
VDD
148
DI19
149
DI18
150
DI17
151
DI16
152
GND
153
DI15
154
DI14
155
DI13
156
DI12
157
GND
158
VDD
159
DI11
160
DI10
161
DI9
162
DI8
163
GND
164
VDD
165
DI7
166
DI6
167
DI5
168
DI4
169
GND
170
VDD
171
DI3
172
DI2
173
DI1
174
DI0
175
VDD
176
GND
R4915
47
2
1
3
4
C4908
0.1u
25V
Z
RB3
C4904
0.1u
25V
Z
C4934
0.1u
25V
Z
IC2_CS
RR5
RTB1+
RG6
C4939
0.1u
25V
Z
RG1
RF_DE
C4945
0.1u
25V
Z
C4918
47u
6.3V
ASY
C4919
0.1u
25V
Z
C4913
0.1u
25V
Z
C4911
0.1u
25V
Z
C4907
0.1u
25V
Z
R4904
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4906
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4908
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4911
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4909
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4907
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
*R4912
100
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4910
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4916
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4919
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4918
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4920
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4917
47
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
R4901
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
C4906
0.1u
25V
Z
R4902
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
C4950
0.1u
25V
Z
R4922
10K
C4951
0.1u
25V
Z
C4952
0.1u
25V
Z
C4953
0.1u
25V
Z
R4923
0
R4924
4.7K
IXB243WJ
ROM
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
VCC
1
DI3
2
DI2
3
DI1
4
DI0
5
VSS
6
WAD
7
IE
8
WE
9
RSTW
10
VCC
11
SWCK
12
VSS
13
SRCK
14
VCC
15
RSTR
16
RE
17
OE
18
RAD
19
VSS
20
DI12
21
DI13
22
DI14
23
DI15
24
VCC
25
VSS
26
DI16
27
DI17
28
DI18
29
DI19
30
VSS
31
DI20
32
DI21
33
DI22
34
DI23
35
VSS
36
VCC
37
NC
38
NC
39
VSS
40
VCC
41
VSSQ
42
DO23
43
DO22
44
VCCQ
45
DO21
46
DO20
47
VSSQ
48
DO19
49
DO18
50
VCC
51
VCCQ
52
DO17
53
DO16
54
VSSQ
55
VSS
56
DO15
57
DO14
58
VCCQ
59
DO13
60
DO12
61
VCC
62
VSSQ
63
VSS
64
DO0
65
DO1
66
VCCQ
67
DO2
68
DO3
69
VSS
70
VSSQ
71
DO4
72
DO5
73
VCCQ
74
VCC
75
DO6
76
DO7
77
VSSQ
78
DO8
79
DO9
80
VCCQ
81
DO10
82
DO11
83
VSSQ
84
VCC
85
VSS
86
NC
87
NC
88
VCC
89
VSS
90
DI11
91
DI10
92
DI9
93
DI8
94
VSS
95
DI7
96
DI6
97
DI5
98
DI4
99
VSS
100
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TO LCD CONT
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LC-26GA5E
LCD CONT 2 (QS)
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IC4901
IXB002WJ
QS
*IC4903
IC4902
IXA986WJ
FIFO
LCD_CONT UNIT 2/7
0
0
3.3
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0.5
0.5
0.5
0.5
0.5
0.5
3.3
0.5
0.5
0.5
0.5
0
1.1
1.5
1.3
1.3
1.3
1.3
3.3
1.1
1.5
1.1
1.5
0
3.3
3.3
3.3
3.3
0.9
3.3
3.3
0
0
3.3
3.0
0
3.1
3.7
0
0
3.3
2.5
0
1.7
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
3.3 2.5 3.3 3.2 3.3 1.2 0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3 0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3 1.2 0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3 0
0
3.3
0
0
3.3
2.5
3.3
1.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
3.0
3.1
0
0
3.3
3.1
3.3
3.3
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
2.5
0
3.3
1.7
0
1.4
3.3
0
2.5
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0.6
0.3
0
0.3
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
3.3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
I
H
G
F
E
D
C
B
A
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